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Hi Everyone,

I just finished a new Bi-Plane for a customer in New York.

km01.jpg km02a.jpg  km03.jpg

Scroll Saw Magic Vintage 1927 Bi-Plane


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hi ken that realy looks great love the way you painted it do you put any thing over the paint or is it just gloss paint on its own.
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Hi Gary
Sorry I did not see your post.

After painting the Bi-Plane with several coats of Krylon Banner Red and Silver we gave it a coat of Krylon's Clear Coat.

After two days we waxed the plane with Cynthia's Beeswax and Mineral Oil, to help protect it during shipping.

Did not matter what we did the US Postal Service destroyed the plane by crushing the box from the top.
.Amanda Singleton's Broken Bi-Plane  Edited 02.08.jpg  

We just finished building a new one for my customer and sent it yesterday.
We also built a special padded box inside the box to give the US Postal Service a bigger challenge.

Again, I am so sorry I missed your question in the post.


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hi ken all fine about my question sorry to here the plane got messed up. your not on your own the uk post is not always that good ether i sent one of my wood toy cars off to some one nice box lots of bubble wrap and still got a mark in the side of the car ohh and a hole in the box about shoe size. thanks for the info on your painting not sure if you can buy Krylon's Clear Coat.in the uk will have to have a look.
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Great job on the build and the paint job is really cool!!!
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Thanks Guys for the positive feedback.
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Yikes! What kind of box did you use to ship it?
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Great job Ken I was wondering if you applied the finish with a spray can or a brush or did you use an Air  Brush ? It is a pretty good job if it was done with a brush and better than I could do with a spray can.
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Sdaupanner

Sorry I did not see your question about painting my Bi-Plane, I am not very good with this forum stuff.

The red and silver paint is Krylon spray paint, and the struts and propeller is painted with Delta Ceramcoat Acrylic paint brushed on.  I had to use the Delta paint because the customer wanted a darker brown paint on those parts than I had in the Krylon spray..

I do not have a working air gun.  Something on my wish list.

Sdaupanner I would love to learn more about the Spray Can Handles you are talking about.
Do you remember where you got them?

Broken wing:
I thought i had packed the plane really well, but the box was crushed from the top by the US Postal Service, putting more pressure on the bottom wing than the glue joint could stand.
Now I put 1/4" dowels through the wing into the body about 1/2", which makes this weak point strong enough to survive shipping.  It does created a challenge if I wanted to paint the wing a different color that the body.  Oh Well Can't Have Everything I Guess.

Thanks for any feedback you might have on about the spray can holders.

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Frankg

Sorry I missed your question about the kind of box is used when the Bi-Plane got broken.

I used a normal box and had the plane wrapped in bubble wrap and surrounded with peanuts.
That was not enough to protect it.

Now i use a Styrofoam cooler i cut in rings, and put the bubble wrapped plane on the bottom ring of Styrofoam, than cut another ring with body parts cut out of the Styrofoam to make a protective shell around the plane, then all spaces are filled with peanuts.
Might be overkill and cost extra to ship, but it is so disappointing to have a project broken in shipping and having to start over.

I did have to increase the cost of my shipping on some of my products.  So sad.

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Ken:

           The Catalog that I saw the Spray handle in was Klingspor's Woodworking Shop  this was the 2014 No.149 they can be seen at http://www.woodworkingshop.com.  The spray Handle is attached to the top of your spray can and turns in into sort of an air brush. These can be used on just about any kind of material and they also have a sprayer that is mounted on to a glass container and in that container you can put your own paints into but I think that it is aerosol spray but I am not sure. The sprayer is located on page 106 and is part no# B1205000  PRICE $2.95   Their Ph# is 1-800-228-0000. I think I received the catalog free for the asking I seem to get quite a few in fact to the point that they make good fodder for the fire place. THis is a start I know that there are others that carry these handles if one Googles them they maybe there on E-Bay.
You may even try Rockler they have a bunch of things for the woodworker and they just love to send out their catlogs and then Grizzly is a great place to do business I have several tools from them and their prices are reasonable. Lee Valley is also a great place to get fine tool pay the price for tools that last a life time I have their cabinet scrapers and drill sets from these people to name a few things and they stand behind their sales.
So this is a few places that have what you may need and a few places that may fill a few of your Wish Lists.

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Thank You Sdaupanner for all the good info.
I will look at the paint sprayers.

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When I first started a year ago, I just went to Sears and bought all the basic tools, like the Table Saw, Scroll Saw, Drill Press, Small Combo Disk/Belt Sander, Band Saw, and a router.

Now I am starting to try and upgrade.  I did buy a Excalber EX21 Scroll Saw and just love it.
Would love a better table saw with better infeed/outfeed, and fence system.  Really need a good router table and fence system.

Seems like the more I learn about this toy making stuff the bigger my wish list becomes.

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